2010
06.28

I haven’t written here for a while, however recent events have compelled me to put a few words down.

Personally, I am excited about the elevation of Julia Gillard to the office of Prime Minister of Australia.

I don’t give a toss that she is a woman (or more importantly, a ranga), unmarried and childless – how do any of those things impact on the ability of a person to conduct themselves in the best interests of the nation?

They don’t, but we are, of course, going to see the tired old clichés that revolve around such issues wheeled out ad infinitum by the unthinking majority; particularly those of a conservative bent.

Such ignorance has already been displayed by a percentage of those commenting on a humourous article by Carrie Miller on The Punch:

http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/gillard-is-doing-it-for-all-the-unmarried-barren-atheists/

Miller is obviously pre-empting the drivel that will be sprouted by the ignoramuses who actually seem to genuinely believe that ones contribution to society can be mesaured by the amount of children they have or their dedication to “traditional Xian values”.

To those “good Christian people” who would argue that Gillard being unmarried and childless poses a threat to the very fabric of society, renders her somehow unfit to govern, I would ask one simple question:

- How many of their popes over the past several hundred of years have been married or fathered and raised children?

I suppose that that is where I feel that the bleating about those matters should be put to bed.

Onto the mumblings about Ms Gillard’s alleged atheism or agnosticism.

Why does that matter either?

In the 2006 Census, the religious affiliations (or lack thereof) of Australians was recorded like this (courtesy of abs.gov.au):

Total Xians – 12,685,836

of the total Xians, the following denominations were somewhat lacking in numbers:

Baptist    316,738
Jehovah’s Witnesses    80,919
Mormons    53,199
Hillsong    219,689
Salvation Army    64,200
Seventh-day Adventist    55,251
Uniting Church    1,135,427

A total of 1,925,423 vocal Xian minorities.

Of the non Xians, there were:

148,119 Hindus, 340,392 Muslims and 88,831 Jews.

Those who identified as having no religion number an impressive 3,706,555 and those who don’t list a religious affiliation are at 2,223,957.

In all, there are more “heathens” in Australia than there are Hindus, Muslims, Jews and fundamentalist Xians combined.

You will often hear politicians trotting out the loathsome adage that we are apparently a “Christian nation”, yet the figures don’t bear that out – particularly when one considers that less than 20% of all Xians in this country attend church on a regular basis.

Personally I feel that a lack of religious affiliation is a positive in a leader, particularly when the alternative option has allowed his fundemantalist Catholic views to influence his policy making when he was health minister under Howard and tried to prevent the legal use of RU486, the “abortion drug”.

Certainly, when Tony Abbott, the “Mad Monk” has also gone on the record saying that he “feels threatened” by homosexuals becayse they challenge “orthodox notions of the right order of things”.

http://www.news.com.au/national/tony-abbott-gay-people-challenge-right-order-of-things/story-e6frfkvr-1225838477260

Do we really want to go down the George W Bush path of allowing the separation of church and state to become so blurred with a Prime Minister who will allow his policy decisions to be shaped by his unwavering belief in superstitions from several thousand years past?

Do we want to regress and enter a dark age in a modern Australia whereby homosexuals are demonised, woman are not permitted to make their own choices – or do we want a progressive, modern Australia where reason and logic are valued above superstition?

Had Rudd stayed in power, I would have been unable to vote for either of the major parties and would have parked my vote as a protest, somewhere else.

Now that we have a clear and decisive choice – between a strong, dedicated, hard working, pragmatic, disciplined ranga and an emotional, superstitious, fundamentalist loose cannon – my decision has been made quite easy.

My tip – Labor with an increased majority at the next election (to be held in August).

PS – I reckon that Julia would look a lot better in budgie smugglers as well ;)

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  1. [...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Monica, leapingjudas and ldmccartywa, ldmccartywa. ldmccartywa said: RT @Monicks: Julia Gillard – a ranga atheist Prime Minister… who cares? by @leapingjudas http://bit.ly/av5uQB #tonyabbott #juliagillard #atheism #atheist [...]

  2. “In all, there are more “heathens” in Australia than there are Hindus, Muslims, Jews and fundamentalist Xians combined.”

    Wow, that’s something to be prod of isn’t it! No wonder the country (and the world) is so stuffed. And it is. And not because of ‘climate change’ either! We have far more to worry about than that!

  3. One could say that an expanding population of rational thinkers, people who think critically and question rather than blindly follow; is something to be proud of, yes.

    You didn’t actually explain why you thought that the sky was falling, but I would be most interested in hearing your reasoning.

  4. julia gillard is a backstabbing liar once you find someone is a liar the best thing to do is not believe anything that comes out of her lying mouth’

  5. [...] They don’t, but we are, of course, going to see the tired old clichés that revolve around such issues wheeled out ad infinitum by the unthinking majority; particularly those of a conservative bent. Julia Gillard – a ranga atheist Prime Minister… who cares? [...]

  6. i for do not think julia gillard is the proper person to be prime minster
    much ladies would be going for her because shes the first woman
    but its really on how she cooporates with politics.
    i also think that was very wrong on how she backstabbed kevin rudd
    i mean i know he did wrong, but to go behind his back and ask people to vote for her.
    and kevin rudd got introuble for it?
    & all for abortions, how would you feel about losing a baby?
    gaysem, i think its good how you are for it, because i have alot of gay friends, and thats good
    but i also dont agree with the things you say,
    i for vote for tony abbot.

  7. The only thing I will take you to task for is the comment about abortions.

    Abortions are legal – they are a womans right. It is her body, her choice.

    “Losing a baby” is so very different to someone choosing, for a variety of reasons, to have an abortion.

    Your comment is ignorant and insensitive in the extreme.

    You will fit in well with Abbott and his extreme views, though I hope that you don’t get your wish for the sake of the rest of us you sad, pitiful person.

  8. they should be illegal, because its there choice if they use protection

    a baby is a person to, may not be a full grown person but they still have a life and become a person
    taking there life is like murder.

    so i suggest you think before you write.
    or act.

    your the sad one, thinking its okay to murder babies.
    my comment is not ignorant, im just speaking my mind, by the looks of your comment you seem to aswell.
    so yeah.

    • Of course, all rapists use condoms don’t they?

      I suppose that when a woman is being raped, they should insist that the rapist whacks on a rubber before proceeding – is that what you are suggesting?

      That is beside the point though, you further expose your ignorance by seeming to suggest that it is actually *possible* to perform an abortion on a baby.

      It isn’t.

      Abortions ar > 28 weeks in any state in Australia are illegal – in some states, it is as low as 14 weeks before they become illegal.

      During this time, there is no “baby”, rather a foetus. They have the potential to “have a life and become a person” however at this point, they are incapable of surviving without their attachment to their mother.

      The woman carrying the foetus has the complete, unassailable right to choose whether or not to continue that support and should not be told otherwise by others who would claim an ignorant high moral ground.

      You are either a very well disguised troll or a completely ignorant oxygen thief who really should have themselves been aborted.

      It is very disingenuous of you to suggest that I have said that it is “ok to murder babies” – tantamount to outright dishonesty actually.

      You are welcome to speak your mind, but please do not misrepresent my position or scientific fact when doing so.

      • Scientific fact my arse! It has life! You may want to call it a foetus and say its not ready yet but its still alive.

        Do you have any idea what happens to a baby while it goes through abortion? During a video ‘The Silent Scream’, an ultrasound showed that the baby had opened up its mouth and was moving away from the needle. The doctor said that the only possible explanation was that it was screaming. It’s alive. Your stupid, insenstive views don’t mean anything.

        And if a woman is raped, turn in it to a good situation, give the miracle of life! I have a friend who was raped and she still went through the pregnancy and she said that to see that baby smile made her forget the struggle that she went through.

        There have been cases where a baby has been said they would have Down Sydrome and they have turned out to be perfectly healthy. You just imagine if you were in the baby’s situation. Wouldn’t you want to live? I’d think I would. I don’t think someone would go “Oh its fine just murder me, I’ll be okay – I’m just a foetus”

        Your supposed to be smart right? Than use your friken head!

        Oh and don’t make the assumption that woman will be voting for Julia Gillard because of her gender. I certainly won’t and I work with many woman who hate her more than I do.

        PS Australia was first listed as a Christian Nation, just for the record

        • I trust that you haven’t ever been raped, let alone gang raped then?

          We all have “friends” who allow us to reinforce our views – just like Tony Abbott allegedly has gay friends “very close ones”.

          “Some of my closest friends are…” or “I have a friend who was…” are the new “I’m not racist but…”.

          PS, check out section 116 of the Australian constitution. Australia is not and has never been a nation defined by any kind of religion.

          • Do you know the statistics for women who get abortions for the reason of rape are very low? Just because you get raped, doesn’t necassarily mean you will fall pregnant.

            For the subject on whether or not Australia is a Christian Nation. Read it

            116. The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.

            This means that they will not push anyone to any religion and will let anyone practice their religion and will not make it a criteria that you need for a job.

            When our Commonwealth Constitution was being debated a prominent founding politician, Sir John Downer, said, “This Commonwealth of Australia from its first stage will be a Christian Commonwealth”.

            Australia is a Christian nation in the same way as we identify other nations, India as a Hindu nation, Pakistan as a Muslim nation, etc.

            Not everyone living in Australia is a Christian, although nearly 70% claim they are Christian in the National Census, with their Christian identification such as Catholic, Pentecostal etc.

            And I like how you didn’t refute anything I said aside from the rape and Christian Nation comments.

    • i, for one, dont think a baby should be born if it is are unwanted.
      if a woman uninentionally falls pregnant (which, by the way, is both as equally the fault of the man as it is the woman in most cases), & has no choice to abort, shes pretty much flushed her life down the drain. unfortunatley in society, its assumed that its the womans responsibility to raise the child – she, not the father, is the one who has to put her entire life on hold.
      a baby could have down syndrome, & alot of women opt to have their babies aborted because otherwise this would mean giving up your entire life to look after this individual pretty much until the day you die.
      & in addition to this, some women might not be financially able to raise a baby. therefore, should the baby be born, it would be born into bad circumstances. this would also be the case if the mother/father where alcoholics/drug abusers/psychologically unwell.
      a woman who falls pregnant may also suffer incredible illness during that whole 9 month period. i for one, couldnt stand to be sick for a whole 9 months at the expense of something thats more a seamonkey than a human.
      some other things can go wrong – condoms break, contraceptive pills dont work, or a woman can get raped.
      i wouldnt want to have my rapists child. as well as being psychologically scarred, i would of also then had my whole life ripped apart by some psycho with a boner.

      for a comparison, imagine a stranger is plugged into you, & using your organs to survive, as if you are their life support system, for the next 9 months. you have every right to unplug yourself from that stranger, even if it means their death. of course, it would be nice if you didnt, but you should be the one in control of a situation like that, dont you think?

      abortion is generally only wanted by women (&men) who are not ready for a baby at the particular stage in their life when they fall pregnant. you have an option to opt out of it – isnt that a good thing?

      • Well said Brooke.

        Thank you for bringing some sanity to the discussion on this matter, particularly after the ignorant ranting of a 16 year old from Victoria.

        ;)

  9. julia gillard is single.
    would you rather a single lady as our leader that has not interest and dosnt have kids of her own, or be a mother
    or would you rather
    tony abbot who has kids and is a great father

    • There you go again, misrepresenting reality.

      Julia Gillard is in a loving relationship with her partner, she is not single.

      Why does it matter whether or not she has children? How does this make her any less fit to lead than a man who impregnated a woman?

      Do you have children? If so, how many and would you be a better PM than Julia simply because someone impregnated you?

    • Thank you for the four additional comments that you posted from the same IP address (that belongs to the Association of Independent Schools of Victoria Inc).

      Your use of profanity and vulgarity in those messages shows me what kind of individual that you are.

      I will be sending those comments, along with your personal email address and the name that you have used to the school associated with your IP address and ask that they take the appropriate action.

      It is obvious, when one looks at your ignorance, and indeed use of the English language; that your time may be better spent attempting to pay attention in class.

      You might find yourself in a little bit of strife young boy/girl.

      • I don’t think he or she will get into much trouble for those comments. I think some of them will probably agree with her